Saturday, October 18, 2014


Over at another Pray Tell blog, they seem to be jumping for joy that Paul VI is being beatified.  What is it with this sudden rush for popes to canonise their predecessors?  It's downright embarrassing.  How much longer before a pope decided to canonise himself?

I have no idea whether Montini is in heaven, but he certainly put us all into a liturgical purgatory, if not hell.  This was a pope who believed he had the authority to abolish the liturgy of ages and replace it with a rite concocted by Bugnini & Co.  Even if his mass was an improvement--and it wasn't, by a long shot--popes don't have the right to do that.  It's not their liturgy, it's ours.

Question:  why are proponents of Montini's mass so keen to quash free discussion and debate?  Is it because deep down they realise his rite is banal and inferior?  Is it part of the same authoritarian streak Montini himself exemplified?  Is it because they know, but cannot admit to themselves, that Montini's mass violates the instructions of Vatican II?  Do they want readers to believe that 'most people' think the same as they do?  Are they trying to convince themselves that's the case?  Or do they just like to control people?

In any event, here's a couple comments their censors wouldn't publish:

[in response to a post praising Montini's 'diplomatic skills' (!) in picking up Vatican II after John XXIII's death:]

'To this task Montini brought considerable diplomatic skills'--and that's all he could bring. Montini had no pastoral skills; he was born to privilege and never 'smelled of the sheep', for he never served a parish.  The closest he came to this was when he was exiled to the see of Milan, where he spent a few years before they let him back into the Curia.

Montini's pontificate was an unmitigated disaster and a shameful exercise in papal aggression.  He did what no other pope had ever presumed to do--he abolished the Mass of ages and substituted for it another rite.  No pope has the authority to do that.  His legacy?  Empty pews, empty churches.
(Note:  The  US Catholic bishops' conference is equally fulsome in their praise of poor Montini.  Apparently they too only publish comments that agree with the party line; their inquisitors suppressed a comment that made these same points.)
[in response to a post likening the current 'synod on the family' to Vatican II:]
The big difference between this synod and Vatican II:  it's one thing for a bunch of celibate males to come together and draft documents about religious liberty or scripture, or to make (very modest) proposals on liturgical tweaks.  It's another thing for a bunch of (purportedly) celibate males--of which a huge proportion are homosexuals, certainly far more than would be predicted from the homosexual prevalence in the general population--pontificating to us about 'the family.'  Give us a break, please.


David Brainerd said...

I'm only guessing here, but I imagine your comments would have been more likely to be posted has you called him Pope Paul VI rather than Montini. Or at least it would have taken the censors 2 seconds before clicking "deny" rather than the 0.5 seconds it probably took them.

Tony V said...

You could be right...I'm still trying to fathom their unwritten rules. Have got about a half dozen rejected/deleted comments since then, which I think I'll post here soon.

Incidentally, as the first and so far only person to comment here you've won a £10,000 prize. Just send me your bank account numbers, sort code, PIN numbers and any other personal details and I'll get that right to you.

David Brainerd said...

My bank account is number 987246827 at the Vatican bank, and my pin is 1234. Lol.